The Creating Value in Schools Podcast › Episode 29
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In this episode, Liz Worthen explores what happens when we listen first – and how it can actually save time and lead to better outcomes in schools.
Aldaine Wynter, Director of International Mindedness, Diversity and Inclusion at Washington International School, reflects on spending his first year listening – meeting parents, staff and community groups before launching major initiatives, so he could “meet the community where they are.”
Sean Harris from Tees Valley Education shares how social listening transformed a glossy school newsletter into a termly community magazine, co-produced with families, children and local partners.
Leadership mentor Nickii Messer explores what it means to listen to understand in honest conversations – allowing space, avoiding assumptions, and using more collaborative language.
Wendy Litherland describes how asking a homeless charity what was really needed led pupils to create support for dogs as well as people – deepening empathy and impact.
Together, these examples show how listening first can build trust, strengthen collaboration, and lead to better outcomes in schools.
Liz Worthen is an educator, researcher, podcaster and writer. Her career in education spans teaching, training, commissioning and programme development, creating resources which enable leaders to flourish in their roles. Creating Value in Schools is about the exploration of sustainable working in education, to secure better outcomes for learners and communities.
Podcasts featured in this episode
00:00 Why listening matters
00:45 Aldaine listening tour
01:40 Drop In Sessions
03:13 Sean social listening
03:48 Newsletter feedback
06:12 Trust and coproduction
07:06 Nickii honest conversations
10:10 Assumptions and truth
10:53 Wendy unexpected needs
11:55 Dog bags breakthrough
12:45 Key takeaways and wrap
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